Many movies lack substance. We live in a society which seeks to accept agenda seeking concepts instead of thought-provoking analysis. I venture out into the movie sites when I preview trailers or premiers which are not just entertaining but adorn itself with an enlighten awakening to demand or cause change. (to name a few: War Room, Pulpit Gangster etc…
I like superhero movies but I don’t want them to be the only films made. The problem is that foreign markets are now so important that the emphasis is on easily-understood action and not the complex, downbeat anti-hero movies of the 70s, the best decade in Hollywood history for me.
Studios are lazy now and will only back something with an already in-built audience. They won’t take time to finance and build up ideas from scratch. They only want to remake and recycle or play it safe on some comic book or game that’s huge but doesn’t necessarily mean it’ll be a good movie.
There are great new stories out there just waiting to be told, especially among some of the self-published authors as some directors are seeing with Ridley Scott’s The Martian and the Spielberg-produced The Turning all coming from indie authors.
Hollywood had to take huge risks in the 70s when they nearly went bankrupt and it paid off spectacularly. They don’t take risks now and you get safe, boring garbage.
Hollywood started in Santa Monica, with the “moving pictures’ from the East coming to film here for the sunny non-winter weather.
Fast forward to 2018 and the film industry in Hollywood is at a crossroads and one does not have to go out to the movie but more or less order a film that didn’t do well in the multiplexes 2 months ago which is now on cable…whether they want to see it or not.
Not surprised by this article.
I honestly thought the contract connections between studios and theatres was long since dead. I had no idea that was still….. But, yeah, THAT has to go. That’s dead.
The studios need to simply be rental companies. Renting space to Youtubers, Apple, Hulu, Amazon, Netflix, or anyone needing to rent space and props.
Like Sears, Kmart, gas cars, shopping malls, and classic 70s rock; the studio-theatre concept is dead man walking. … to it’s grave.
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One of the things that really troubles me in movies today is how children are used, especially in horror flicks. No child should pretend to be possessed or violently attacked or brutalized verbally, physically etc. In the Exorcist a woman actor played the possessed little girl not the young actress. Today though the little girl actress would be doing the cross thing, makes me sick, makes me hate Hollywood.
Hollywood has made it clear how they feel about middle America. We are the deplorables, the despicable crack showing Christians who are toothless, fat and ugly. They consider us too stupid to make any worthy decision especially political ones. So I feel the same about Hollywood they are deplorable sex addicts with fake teeth, fake body parts, fake tans, fake hair, fake personalities and not worthy of my hard earned cash, so I will keep it, thank you very much, right here in my dirty little pocket.
After having King Hollywood royalty preaching at hard working Americans who have suffered last decade in a country that has sold us out and failed us who would want to go see these people in movies. They have not contributed one thing to this society other than being paid for movies or their so special faces. Please go away. Lets read a book or head to mountains. Hollywood and the NFL can kiss my butt. The way these groups have defaced our country and the people that want change in the country is unreal. Go away Hollywood. I hope it is all over. Done with it. ..Sharon…
You are right. And I live in Hollywood but not for long. They are delusional. They are also thought slaves. Don’t be too hard on them because they make their living on fiction and what audiences want. They are sponsored by the policial views they are required to support and they can’t leave cuz they have no where to go. Hollywood is a place for wayfaring people. That’s why the conditions are so bad. The glam and glitter is on the side facing the public and the scum is in the other side taking advantage of the naive and desperate. Much of the ugly would go away in Hollywood if the general money spenders wouldn’t demand absurd glam and larger than life actors, but what’s fun about that if you’re going to pay to see it? Don’t rely on their judgement, just be entertained by the show.
Plain and simple , we the people of America voted fair and square for President Trump we won , the industry wants to Resist the president FINE we will certainly Resist them we do not need them ( Meryl Streep , Rpbert Diero , Sally Field , Tom Hanks , Clooney , Pitt and all the rest ) and all thier movies are bombing and will continue , Jen Lawrence her career is over .We know who the actors that resist and will forever resist them , notice the movies that made millions opening night , all these actors were not known or very famous , more unknowns for actors in movie will turn around the industry , I love to go out to a diner and movie , NOT any more not with resist movement , right now we hate that industry and this should be a clue to why you loose and we win
As the industry tries to make abnormal behavior appear to be normal the fewer movies I watch. The more I see actors or actresses try to use their influence or threaten to leave the country to sway voters or how to vote the fewer movies I watch. If I wanted to watch porn shows I would go to an adult movie house. I also avoid using products from advertisers that promote these movies. The majority of movies are worthless crap.
You’d actually go to a filthy porn theater instead of just getting millions of hours of it FOR FREE on your computer or phone? How old ARE you, man?!?
I read this whole article!
I read this whole article.
Compared to ever-changing forms of music, art or architecture through the decades, the Hollywood feature is fossilized in amber, both in terms of the underlying business model and the structure of its content. Our attention spans are mobilized and our content consumption is atomized. The form factor of a Hollywood movie is incompatible with both.
That’s nonsense, recorded music is still the same audio waves of tuned sound, most visual arts are two-dimensional, sculptures are generally the same three dimensional forms and architecture is still generally a four-wall structure. That’s like saying books are “fossilized” because they are still printed on paper. Nothing has changed, the story structures used over the last hundred years and in films today date back to Aristotle’s times. That sounds like blow-hard intellectual gibberish by someone who doesn’t understand our industry. You either like movies or you don’t, you either like books or music or art or you don’t. Consumer behavior has changed in that we expect what we want, when we want it, and where we want it and the lines of content formats are changing, we are watching more short form content online. This does not replace the theater experience. Less people are going to theaters because there are less movies drawing them there. Yes, there are flaws in the business models on the production side, but theme parks like Disneyland have managed to raise their ticket prices many times over the past 20 years and their attendance is going up. It is purely a value proposition, film is no different than any other sector of products or services who rely on the laws of supply and demand. Hollywood is over supplied with bad product causing a weakening in the demand, if they are going to survive they need to make a product that people want.
No offense but is there a deliberate effort to verbalize replies in the most overly complicated way possible or an alternative and nonsensical argument used to justify fancy adjectives and metaphors? Once we try and decipher your post and if your reasoning is correct then the whole industry would be doomed. People actually still do watch movies and TV you know so it has absolutely nothing at all to do with attention spans. If you asked 100 people why they don’t go to the Cinema anymore I’ll bet around 70% of them would say the rip off ticket prices. Simple.
They have to go virtual 3D in Theaters. The technology is already being tested and used. They need to provide an experience that people can’t get at home including vibrating the chairs, smells, better sound and an all around “emergence experience” to keep competitive and draw in the audience. ~ Enlightened Life Entertainment
If thy’re anything like me, I think they’d say that they have an acceptable equivalent experience available from their sofa, in their pajamas, with a bowl of their favorite ice cream in their lap, with the ability to pause the experience when they need to pee.
It’s only the true zeitgeist movie that pushes me into the theater these days, when I don’t want to miss out on what everyone’s talking about. For virtually everything else, I’ll pick from the numerous excellent movies available at home, that were in the theater a few months earlier.
Yes, that is what I mean. They really need to make it something special for people to go out to see and experience it.
The future of multiplex theater could be following the ill-fated drive in theater. The cinema experience has changed dramatically since the inception of the multiplex in the 1980’s. Auditoriums have become noticeably smaller, sometimes housing less than 100 seats and smaller screens, which took away from the cinema experience. The DVD and influx of chains such as Blockbuster and smaller Mom and Pop video stores in the 1980’s hit the movie theater business hard. In the present, streaming services such as Netflix, make movie viewing more convenient. The theater as we now know it will likely be a thing of the past in the next decade.
As an experienced Theater Manager and Projectionist with over a decade of experience, I can tell you that the bulk of the profits go to the motion picture studio with typically a 55/45 percent split of the profits. The real profit for the theater itself is in the sale of concessions. While I agree that both ticket and concessions are both high, there are things you can do to save money at the theater. Look for bargain days, typically on a Tuesday for cheaper admission prices. Ticket are usually lower for the first show or matinees. Ask about discounts for students, senior citizens or military. Join the club membership for larger chains and take advantage of coupons issued at the box office, such as at Regal Theaters for reduced concession items like popcorn. Parents look for kid packs, usually a popcorn, small drink and candy at reduced prices.
Although, I no longer work there, I still love going to the movies. I consider it a day out and I’m prepared to spend a few bucks. I hope this helps!
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I can’t see how you say that the bulk of the profits go to the picture studio and then say that the split is 55/45. So the studio gets 5% more of the takings? How is that ‘the bulk’? When you have an industry that makes over a 1000% markup on food it shows where the real problem is.
An overly long report that once again emphasizes how far out of touch Hollywood is with reality. The fact of the matter, THAT I’VE READ COUNTLESS TIMES, is that no wants wants to pay upwards of £50 ($80) to take themselves and their family to to the Cinema to watch a movie. It’s as simple as that!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Once these greedy b******s at Hollywood accept this and reduce their profit margins (probably meaning giving up one of their holiday homes or a couple of sports cars) then perhaps we can make the Cinema experience better again? As for now, long the Internet and the myriad of Torrent sites that take more money out of the pockets of the real robbers.
There is something missing from the thought process! The movie theater experience is no longer something people look forward to. Prices have climbed to a point that other entertainment venues are an option. Both ticket price and refreshments are “ridiculous” according to recent survey of patrons. I am currently consulting to a company working for a large theatre group. They are developing a theater environment that will be a complete entertainment complex not just a movie theater. One other thing that keeps people out to theaters is being disconnected from their smartphones for 2 hours! If they can’t text they would rather be someplace else!
Totally agree! And your point about going cold turkey on your mobile diet hit me. Never thought about it. Excellent!
“There are two major problems gripping the industry. Younger audiences are becoming more interested in streamable content that is accessible on their iPhones or tablets.” Well, Hollywood, there’s your problem. Let other industries form to chase the dollar that younger audience never pays to stream content. You see, they want it free. Instead, refocus movies on Baby Boomers and Generation X, and simply improve story quality. Doing those two things is all it takes. And there, your problem’s solved for you.
Whence this inane focus on “younger audiences”? Who GIVES a f what younger audiences want or are doing? Maintain loyalty with the audience that BUILT Hollywood: Boomers and Generation X!
It’s pretty damn simple Hollywood – Tell stories and entertain us, stop trying to push agendas down everyone’s throat while regurgitating crap from the past. Make quality entertainment and I will GLADLY spend the money on a regular basis to go see it.
I find it a little sad that theater chains would spend “millions” to research how timing and prices of home release would affect theater ticket sales, but not one of those chains will invest in cell signal blockers or an usher who actively quiets (and if necessary ejects) disruptive movie goers. I stopped going to movie theaters almost entirely well over a decade ago (closer to two) because of the near certainty that I won’t get to watch and enjoy the movie due to a**hole moviegoers. The theater chains are and have been well aware of this problem, but they’ll try to place the blame anywhere else rather than do something about an experience over which they have complete control.
I would be much more inclined to spend money at a theater if I knew I’d actually get to watch the film. The full big screen experience is different from anything I can get at home, but at least at home I know I’ll actually get to see the movie. In the theater, I’m being charged $13 to $15 per ticket for the “privilege” of listening to strangers’ inane commentary, questions and cell phone conversations, and to be distracted by the light from various devices (often brighter than the movie screen). Paying an arm and a leg to *not* get to see a movie is why I don’t go see movies in theaters; it has absolutely nothing to do with when the movie will be released for home viewing.
OMG YOU GUYS! I swear, I’m surrounded by people who can’t think for themselves & just parrot each other all day long again… And that is why Hollywood is in trouble! Not because of the technicalities of whether people watch a movies on a DVD players or iPhones or out of a freeking toaster. The problem is not, and never will be, that there is too much content. The problem is that there is LESS good content than ever!
But, you know what, as this will take only a few minutes to write, here’s a real analysis. It’s the least I can do for the industry that I love. You’re welcome :)
The reason the business is in the condition it’s in is because:
1. The entertainment business has forgotten that it’s the ***entertainment*** business.
2. Hollywood’s foundation–that of good writing–is now composed of some of the worst writers ever.
3. Hollywood’s executive side is also composed of some of the worst/most-illogical business minds ever. (FYI: Bad script don’t buy themselves.)
By the way, I work at a studio. And I’m 28. And I probably went to the theater on my own twice last year. And once this year, which was a mistake. With the exception of several premiers I went to, during which I wanted to cry after 20 minutes because they were such a drag!
But I remember loving nothing more than going to the movies. And I’d literally go every weekend with friends / family — even though the closet theater was a a little over an hour away from the boarding school I went too & almost three hours away from the vacation house my family would spent most of our summers at! Movies just used to be so good & so worth seeing on the big screen. Or any screen for that matter. As what specific screen you watch things on is apparently just the most profound issue of our lifetimes to some people…
(Sorry, I had to lol!)
But anyways, up until around ’06/’07(??), I don’t ever remember leaving a theater without a big smile on my face. Furthermore, movies that used to be churned out were the kind everybody would watch over & over again. Movies like Beetlejuice, Legally Blonde, Jerry McGuire, Pretty Woman, Gladiator, Heavy Weights, The Lizzie McGuire Movie, Some Like it Hot, Gone With the Wind, Moulin Rouge, The God Father, The Bachelor & The Bobby Soxer etc… They were all just so fun & entertaining! :) (Even all those cheap TV movies that came one the Disney Channel like Zenon & Halloweentown were just zillion times better than most of the major features people spend a quarter of a billion+ nowadays making!)
Which brings me to my point. The majority of todays movies (as well as TV shows) are the worst!
Obviously some of the remakes are really great (e.g. Beauty & The Beast) & are raking in money for a reason. But remakes are a credit to the writers of the past and, furthermore, making remakes is unsustainable as eventually you will just run out of ones to make. But aside from remakes and several great original films (Neighbors 2 for example! :D), everything made is either ‘art for the sake of art’ crud (e.g. La La Land), education/politics preaching buzzkills (e.g. Tomorrowland), or a movie that is so bad that a part of you wonders if it was written/greenlit as part of a conspiracy to destroy a studio (e.g. the recent Ghostbusters, Aloha, the upcoming Oceans movie), or else just another version of Gone Girl (or in regards to TV, another version of CSI of which there have been 10+ at this point!).
(By the way. Before somebody says it. Whatever your political view is, I love you for having it and God bless you. In the case of Tomorrowland for example, I totally agree with the message of that film. And I think that taking care of your environment is so important–something which I was taught by my parents and school. But FYI: I think that not being a total buzzkill is important as well. And I think that, if you have chosen to work in the entertainment business, making actual entertainment to the best of your abilities is important and a matter of ethics as well. It may be an unwritten contract, but when people go to the theater, they’re giving you money for a little fun & escape from life. So honor that contract. Or else, if you think entertainment, which bring happiness to so many people, is frivolous & below your ‘intellectual state of mind’, go work in a different industry. Also, in regards to writers, if you’re a good person, then why are you so worried about preaching goodness to the world. Shouldn’t that goodness, as it’s true and actually part of you, just inherently reflect in everything little thing you do? Furthermore, before someone defends “La La Land” as a movie that made money. Really? Does tricking people into seeing a high school film thesis (which a team of two girl in my class did way better) with a massive publicity blitz count?? I mean, when I saw that trailer I thought it was the most boring thing on earth. But the movie was just getting all these awards & nonstop raves by magazines such as Variety, so I decided to give it a chance. And it was the wooooorst! And everybody I ever talked to about it said the same!! Glad you made back the return you wanted Lionsgate, but you’ve made a lot of people a lot more cynical about critical reviews so real good job you twits behind that scheme….)
That said, in regards to all those people always having those fake-intellectual discussions about tentpoles versus real art…
Weren’t all those fantastic movies I mentioned above (regardless of their genres/whatever) tentpoles? Didn’t they rake in tons for studios in theaters? And didn’t they make tons in DVD/VHS sales & TV reruns? I mean, when did the concepts of blockbusters & good writing become mutually exclusive? Because, in my mind, and just based of basic logic, a genuinely great story is what actually guarantees a great blockbuster. (For example, James Bond would have never become the iconic brand it became if it wasn’t a product of such great writing. Those practically plotless new Bond films obviously only still make money because of the incredibleness of those old ones which people, including me, just don’t want to let go of.) Furthermore, when did it become that movies had to bore you to death & suck as hard as possible for them to be upheld as ‘art’? And when is it that people became so obsessed with ‘art for the sake of art’? Is that when Hollywood become hijacked by a bunch of untalented/not-very-clever dweebs who were only ever able to get their foots into Hollywood by flashing their Ivy degrees (which is really just product of doing your homework diligently all your life!) & mesmerizing people enamored with Ivy-hype with some fancy sounding ‘intellectual terminology’ despite, realistically not having an ability to do literally nothing other than just regurgitate random things they memorized for their midterm exams???
(Btw: I went to Harvard Law. And believe me, while I play it up all the time in real life, it’s not very hard to get into. I think a lot of people are just too intimidated to apply. And I’m not saying that to be humble. I mean, one of my classmates there literally didn’t even know what Beijing was lol! I thought he was joking initially, because how does someone not know that in this day & age about Beijing? That’s like not knowing New York or London… But clearly, it is possible… He was a sweet little soul though, so I don’t mean to badger his character!)
But anyways… I’m sorry to be so blunt and sound so rude… But people there’s just no way to sugarcoat what’s going on at this point!
That said, obviously Hollywood’s writers are sweet & hardworking people. And writing is, while it looks easy, just a very hard job. And one that only a rare few on this planet can do well commercially. I mean, it’s just one of those jobs that requires more than just hard work & diligence. It requires the kind of talent and cleverness and personality that you’ve just got to be born with! It’s like a whole package of things…. Therefore, if you’re one of the untalented writers reading this, don’t take it personally!
Also, in regards to most writers currently working in Hollywood, they’ve got obviously got some talent. It just lies in a different industry. In my opinion, from the way so many of them are so passionate about regurgitating stereotypical ‘intellectual people’ talking points & forcefully enlightening everybody with their knowledge (even if their knowledge only consists of things everybody already learned in high school!), they would make for great high school teachers :) (An important as heck job btw! I don’t mean that sarcastically!!) Same goes for most of the current execs running the show. Most of them just are most suited to be teachers (elementary though in their case, as management is key there!) or else… Accountants! :)
But here’s the thing though…While bad writers are part of the problem, are they the root of it? I mean, you can’t blame someone for giving their dream a shot, right?! In fact, people should always be encouraged to follow their dreams, as you will never know what you’re capable of unless you try. And especially in the case of Hollywood, as we need new literary talent desperately, we won’t be able to discover new talent unless people actually interested in giving screenwriting a shot send us their specs… But why is though that so many bad writers are actually working professionally? And why is it that, coming from someone working in development, it’s always the same crappy writers whose material is just non-stop circulated??
Which brings me to my next point. The root of the problem really is the majority of execs working at studios out here. Because how hard is it do do a job where all you’ve gotta do is pick a good script out of the pile? I mean, did someone force any of these people to hire the worst writers out there & buy/greenlight scripts like Aloha and Imaginary Mary (upcoming flop, mark my words!)? And did someone force them to not go out there & start scouting their hearts out for the new literary talent that our iconic industry will eventually be ruined without? I mean, if agents no longer do their jobs and just send the same horrible scripts by the same clients to us, that doesn’t mean we can’t scout on our own… Because if there were so many talented writers working in the past, at least the same amount (if not more due to population growth) exist today. We just need to find them. Aka: In other words, we just need to all do our jobs in the manner of those great business people (e.g Aaron Spelling) who came before us.
That said… In regards to actually being able to do your job…. Obviously though, once again, just like most writers, all the execs I know are such sweet & hardworking people. And so I feel bad for writing this. But they are just not the kind of guys Aaron Spelling & those those original Warner Brothers were. I mean, I wouldn’t go work as a brain surgeon as I know I don’t have the necessary disposition to deal with doing a job where I’ve gotta just follow instructions to a ‘T’ like that. And so, in the same way… All these execs working (some mentioned in this article) just shouldn’t, once again, be working in business where don’t have the necessary competency (or disposition!) to make decisions that require thinking for yourself as opposed to just copying one another & falling in line. Hence, the 10+ versions of CSI & multiple Gone Girls…
But anyways, that’s all I wanted to say.
That said, maybe there actually is a conspiracy going on or something and it’s like the Manchurian candidate — except this time it’s the studios that have plants to destroy our economy through our industries. Because, I mean, there is dumb & not knowing what your are doing… But this level of stupidity in the decisions being made, and the lack of basic common sense being used, and these silly talking points that are always just being repeated by various people (Stacey Snider was saying stuff similar the other day), is just a whole other level… Lol! :)
Wow. Stumbled across this article today, and then this insanely long comment. Once I got to “And I’m 28”, though, I stopped reading because I knew the opinion of this pseudo-14-year-old didn’t actually matter.
Wow. Were u drunk when u wrote that? I’ve never seen anyone write so much after an article. About stuff not even related to the topic. Get a life. Harvard grads must be cringing.
All I got from that horrible and manically written, pedantic tirade, is that you are the problem. You’re a 28 year old preaching as though you know something, yet you sound exactly like all the other annoying, prissy studio execs that speak loudly without anything to say, and offer pointless notes on scripts, just to remind your bosses that you exist and matter. And perhaps your sophomoric personality is a desperate attempt to convince yourself that you exist and matter, and so you are slowly losing your grounding in reality and becoming unhinged as every day proves to you a little more that your existence is meaningless and nobody cares what you have to say, until finally, you snap and vomit your inner most anxieties onto a comment section. Here is a fact: 28 year old studio executives perform the least important job in Hollywood. You do absolutely nothing of value and possibly just make things worse. After reading your post, I can tell you with total certainty that you are not good at your job and nobody likes you, but if you keep at it for a few more years and try not to act like such a know it all, you might get to take the training wheels off and start performing your job at a high enough level that maybe, juuuust maybe, you will contribute in some small way to the good work of other people that are far more intelligent and creative than you are.
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Project much? You’re doing it here. Her comment, as an insider, made lot of sense. Yours just goes and attacks her post.
How about this, sir: ***you**** do nothing of value, at least here in this comment section. You write badly, too.
Troll.
Hollywood you lizards! If you make quality movies say like LOGAN people will come out in droves to see it. Movie exhibitors also have to stop relying on concessions to pay the bills. No one wants to pay your 1000 percent inflated prices! If you build it (properly without restraint) we will come.
The decline in attendance has nothing to do with any kind of perceived decline in quality of films. It has everything to do with the fact that people under 30 prefer to stream a movie from their mobile device than to see the movie in a theater. The WAY the consumer is choosing to consume their media is changing and it will keep on changing regardless of whatever the “quality” of movies today might be. People are not losing their interest in movies. They just don’t want to watch them in a movie theater.
Well, your products suck now. You became hyperniched and cared way too much about the 15-29 morons who may buy a couple things, but nothing of value. You partnered with less than honorable financiers for easy money, and lost a generation of moviegoers. Now you’re still going the wrong way with foreign financiers. Just make your mind control party a private affair, and pass out Egyptian idols to each other off camera. Oh, and fuck off.
Per capita movie ticket sales are about what they were in 1967. And it looks set to go up this year, And the decline has happened in the context of a bad economy.
Usually the “The End Is Near” talk comes around when Hollywood is out of touch with its audiences. For all the talk about straight-to-streaming movies, there have been only a handful that anyone has actually cared about. I would also say, in reality, there are relatively few superhero films when considering the amount that the market could probably bear. There were like, five, last year. Considering its popularity, that’s really few.
I love how the “implosion” of Hollywood is being blamed on high ticket prices and streaming services like Netflix and Amazon. The real reason this is happing is that Hollywood has been taken over by corporate hacks and Wall Street suck-ups, creative decisions are being made by lawyers and business school graduates. The original Hollywood studio system was built by creative people who had balls and followed their gut instincts. Film sets and board rooms are filled with executives who are too afraid to do anything innovative, they would rather drink from the tiny pool of “talent” and continue to make the same movies over and over again. They all look and sound exactly the same, the stories are predictable and boring. Film is an art form and it can’t be quantified with data and statistics, innovation will always rise to the top.
Yes, film is an art form, but I don’t necessarily think that the original Hollywood studio system was built by “creative people”. I mean, by the late 1910s the studios grew so powerful United Artists was formed so that artists could regain independence from the top executives. To be more precise, I think it was in the 60s and, in particular, the 70s where the studios were really letting artists be creative and take risks.
There is no way I can like M33’s comment enough. I can add nothing to this. He or she nailed it ALL, and I work here.
I love the idea of ‘Screening Room’, the latest disruptive business idea launched by Sean Parker. I would subscribe to the service right away. The theater experience is ridiculously romanticized by the opponents of ‘Screening Room’, given that most cinemas nowadays have about as much charm as a local tax offices. I would be happy to be relieved from lining up, getting shitty food for a shit load of money and being obstructed in enjoying the pleasures of the movie by youths who have missed their Ritalin ration, play around dopamine addicted with their cellphones and unwilling or just unable to hold their peace.
Also business-wise I think it’s a great idea because it enables tens, maybe hundreds of millions of people deprived of a cinema within their reach to participate in the movie experience from day one on. In Germany, in the average everyone is 17 kilometers away from a cinema. And that means maybe hundred kilometers away from a cinema that actually shows any premiering movies at all. Because most of the provincial cinemas only show movies that have already premiered elsewhere. Even in all of the United States there are mostly not more than 3.500 out of 40.000 theaters premiering a movie – and that would be a big release! ‘Screening Room’ or something like it would be a truly fantastic move to democratize the movie experience because theaters are just too lazy to deliver it.
It is your choice. I find a reason to care for cinema because it has given me a very personal experience since I was a kid. I don’t like to sound overly sentimental but it has to me a similar effect I have when I see a theater play. Probably there is people who are taking it personl but you can’t make it look like other people who don’t share your views are in la la land. Peace
I don’t think one can replace the experience of going out to the movies with paying for a new film on TV $30 (especially vs tons of new inexpensive content on Netflix and VOD). This model will fail. The experience of going to the movies is here to stay. Also, look at the inflation-adjusted grosses of the all-time box-office champs on boxofficemojo.com. A great portion were made in the last decade. How can one say audiences are shrinking?
Because the outsized BO performance of a handful of recent films (Force Awakens, Jurassic World) , doesn’t do anything to indicate whether or not people pay to see the other films that are released.
in 2015 and 2016 only 29 films made more than $100 million.
From 2009 to 2014, that number was consistently above 30.
So while the pie may be getting bigger each year, less and less movies are dividing it up.
Research is great, but is anybody going to test market this new model? People will surprise you.
Hollywood could also look to cut back on budgets a bit. Look at the third act of “World War Z.” And a superhero movie like “Deadpool.” The whole movie doesn’t have to spectacle.
They are willing to do anything except produce a variety of good films that appeal to all audiences. So basically if they can’t make their revenue off a single huge garbage film they don’t bother. They don’t want to do the work. They don’t want to make good pictures. They don’t want to hire talented directors and writers. They don’t want to spend any money putting different kinds of films in theatres. That’s what happens when you put mega corps in charge of things they know nothing about.
It’s the sign of the times. Giant Company doesn’t care about anything but quick profit.
More and more we are living in Idiocracy. Any day now the biggest picture will be a film about bare butts farting.
A few notes, taken from direct talk to and overheard from movie theater patrons over the past 3 weeks or so:
Movies costing an obscene amount of money. In a business where success is not a guarantee. It’s Entertainment and Art, not Food or Water. If your movie has to gross 500 million just to break even, you’re in trouble before it’s seen a single screen.
Most screenings in the chain theaters today look like crap.Blurry, contrasty,
2k doesn’t cut it, when spread to a screen larger then 20 feet or so. And there is zero incentive for the theaters to spend on better equipment.
Even IMAX isn’t keeping up with proper projection and technology. It’s been years since they announced 4k, Laser Projection 12.1 sound,etc. And yet…largely in places like L.A. and N.Y. where one expects this like one expects the water to be on.
All of this does not help in encouraging people to go out to a venue, where tickets are 10 dollars, a bag of popcorn starts around 6 or 7, and it just goes up from there. People need a reason to step out of their homes. Blindly putting out rehashes of the same thing, without even asking the audience if they’d like to see it, doesn’t help either.
The audience has to WANT to go. WANT to see. Product…o’kay, it’s a mater of taste. But there’s little variety to be seen on a multiplex, where,say, Beauty and the Beast will take up nearly half the houses. That doesn’t leave a lot of room for anyone else.
On Non Netflix streaming, one has a large selection of old and new movies to watch. At home. With often better sound and picture quality.
Just reporting in from the trenches at the front lines.
I personally think the film industry needs a service akin to Steam for PC video games, where there would be a centralized storefront for multiple studios all the way from indie on up to the big name blockbusters, the ability to purchase and download digital copies of merchandise, an extra streaming service on the side with a modest fee, an early access program for movies that have yet to be formally release for home media and a digital representation of the user with a customizable profile and character, with sales of digital goods for said avatars and profiles driving the continued cost of server upkeep and client development.
Since 1968; the USA motion picture industry has been telling the 13-to-16 years old that they are old enough to pay adult prices, yet they are not old enough to see an R rated film without a parent and/or guardian.
How about changing it to 17 and above pay adult prices, while the 16 and under pay children’s prices. Most theaters make the bulk of their profit from the snack bar.
The cinema is one of the few businesses in the USA that gets away with being double standard mercenary hypocrites.
Who will speak up for the 13-to-16 years old and their parent and/or guardians?
VUDU has something very much like that. Multiple studios, a wide variety of movies to purchase or rent. Download capability. 4k and Dolby Atmos.
What is this the 10th year in a row I’ve read an article telling me of the destruction of the movie industry? Or is the 15th? Or 60th? And how come a few months ago I was reading about the end of Cable TV and this cites it’s success as one of the reasons the movie industry is in trouble.
Sounds like a bunch of noise to have something to talk about and get eyeballs.
Is releasing a movie 30 or 45 days after release in theaters (for 30-50 dollars!) really that big of a difference than the current 90 day model? Any movie I’m willing to wait 45 days for I’m willing to wait 90 days for. And unless I got a whole family I’m not paying 30 dollars to rent a movie and stay at home.
Do we really think kids are watching YouTube videos just out of convenience or do they actually prefer that endless free content over a two hour movie?
Best solution: lower theater prices on admissions and concessions. This isn’t about tablets or phones or binging. It’s about GOUGING.
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I know right? How dare you charge me ten dollars to see a movie that cost you 200 million dollars to make! What a rip off!
As I sit here pondering your comment, try as I might I can’t remember the last time I saw a film I thought was worth a 200 million dollar price tag. There has to come a day when we stop this endless CGI madness and actually make pictures about people again.
I like action films and sci fi and comic book as much as anyone, but come on. In a world where people don’t have enough to eat we blow 200 million dollars on a film and expect to make it back? You can’t get much more craven than that without being a basketball star.
Money has corrupted every asdpect of our lives. Film is no longer about art it’s about earnings. So much is sacrificed in quality and appeal. We are watching the dumbing down of culture in this country. Just look at how money has corrupted and dumbed down our government. Quite sad and depressing.
Hollywood is still heavily segregated and whitewashed. As an Asian, I see virtually no characters who look like me on the big screen. I understand that Hollywood doesn’t care about my demographic, but don’t come crying to me about low ticket sales if I stay home instead.
The keystone of Hollywood is exclusivity, p aranoia and greed. The cure is the “devolution ” and not evolution of the major film studios. When filmed entertainment is epitomized by something other than “numbers” then the motio picture will regain its value.
My wife and I rarely go to the movies anymore. Only when there’s a movie that really needs to be seen on the big screen, like the latest Star Wars movie, Lord of the Rings, etc. We go maybe once a year and some years not at all. We love movies, but usually aren’t in any hurry to see them until they hit the pay-cable channels.
The system has to crash so young artists can have a voice: let it happen.
Young artists already have a voice. There are plenty of arthouse/independent films being made already.
Please. Young artists are living in poverty and constantly being scammed. Enough lies.
It’s deceptive to cite sean baker as a young filmmaker. Tangerine was his fourth feature.
Yes, but this is the nature of the business. We can’t stop it from evolving. I doubt people will stop going to the theatres, just like people won’t stop going to concerts – there’s just something about sitting down with some popcorn and watching a big screen.
When my daughters were young, if the film was PG, I’d bring them with me. No need for a babysitter.
Sure, Netflix and Amazon have entered the scene, but we are social creatures needing social interaction. The whole point of theatre is to get out of the house and escape and enjoy some good storytelling. Nobody’s going to give that up any time soon.
Both David and Lisa below make some great points. Basically the two of you represent the full issue. Half see it the way David does and the other the way Lisa sees it. As for me, I only visit the theater around Oscar season to catch up and when there’s a big event, Like Avengers or Batman vs Superman. I also visit when there’s a huge word of mouth about a film. But the ladder, I tend to wait until it’s available for streaming to catch up. So I’m not sure where I fall in regarding what David & Lisa are saying. Great article by the way.
People are not going to stop going to the movie theater en masse. The problem is that not enough people go to the movie theaters in order to sustain the current Hollywood studio system as we know it.
I’m sorry but, film is just not where it’s at anymore. This focus on global receipts takes any daring or originality out of filmmaking, The Oscars are not even what they used to be. The handful of films thrown up at the end of the year are not nearly as good as years past, and not even close to what’s happening on tv/streaming. The Crown, Big Little Lies, Handmaid’s Tale-these and more would have been films even as recently as a decade ago, and eligible for nominations, but not now. There is a palpable excitement for Game of Thrones, Fargo,Twin Peaks, Stranger things even smaller titles like Leftovers and the like. Can’t say the same about film, unless you are a comic book junkie or 10 year old.
Let’s not even talk about the actual experience of going to the theater, which has become just dreadful. I still trudge out there for the interesting films, but they are becoming less and less, even here in NYC, where the choices are better than mainstream America.
The business needs to recognize these changes and do something drastic.
Adapt or die, it’s that simple.
In the old days, a continuing series of episodes was called a soap opera. The above you mentioned are TV shows, not film. To me, there’s TV and there’s film – two distinctive entities.
it’s not the “old days” and if you can’t recognize the quality difference between the soap opera of old and today’s work, then I can’t help you.
I think David’s point is that almost all of the creative risks are being taken on the TV medium, while film for the most part has abandoned that and makes films mostly based on proven and recognizable franchises.
Both are motion pictures if you want to go in semantics.
Many movies lack substance. We live in a society which seeks to accept agenda seeking concepts instead of thought-provoking analysis. I venture out into the movie sites when I preview trailers or premiers which are not just entertaining but adorn itself with an enlighten awakening to demand or cause change. (to name a few: War Room, Pulpit Gangster etc…
I like superhero movies but I don’t want them to be the only films made. The problem is that foreign markets are now so important that the emphasis is on easily-understood action and not the complex, downbeat anti-hero movies of the 70s, the best decade in Hollywood history for me.
Studios are lazy now and will only back something with an already in-built audience. They won’t take time to finance and build up ideas from scratch. They only want to remake and recycle or play it safe on some comic book or game that’s huge but doesn’t necessarily mean it’ll be a good movie.
There are great new stories out there just waiting to be told, especially among some of the self-published authors as some directors are seeing with Ridley Scott’s The Martian and the Spielberg-produced The Turning all coming from indie authors.
Hollywood had to take huge risks in the 70s when they nearly went bankrupt and it paid off spectacularly. They don’t take risks now and you get safe, boring garbage.
Hollywood started in Santa Monica, with the “moving pictures’ from the East coming to film here for the sunny non-winter weather.
Fast forward to 2018 and the film industry in Hollywood is at a crossroads and one does not have to go out to the movie but more or less order a film that didn’t do well in the multiplexes 2 months ago which is now on cable…whether they want to see it or not.
Not surprised by this article.
I honestly thought the contract connections between studios and theatres was long since dead. I had no idea that was still….. But, yeah, THAT has to go. That’s dead.
The studios need to simply be rental companies. Renting space to Youtubers, Apple, Hulu, Amazon, Netflix, or anyone needing to rent space and props.
Like Sears, Kmart, gas cars, shopping malls, and classic 70s rock; the studio-theatre concept is dead man walking. … to it’s grave.
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One of the things that really troubles me in movies today is how children are used, especially in horror flicks. No child should pretend to be possessed or violently attacked or brutalized verbally, physically etc. In the Exorcist a woman actor played the possessed little girl not the young actress. Today though the little girl actress would be doing the cross thing, makes me sick, makes me hate Hollywood.
Hollywood has made it clear how they feel about middle America. We are the deplorables, the despicable crack showing Christians who are toothless, fat and ugly. They consider us too stupid to make any worthy decision especially political ones. So I feel the same about Hollywood they are deplorable sex addicts with fake teeth, fake body parts, fake tans, fake hair, fake personalities and not worthy of my hard earned cash, so I will keep it, thank you very much, right here in my dirty little pocket.
After having King Hollywood royalty preaching at hard working Americans who have suffered last decade in a country that has sold us out and failed us who would want to go see these people in movies. They have not contributed one thing to this society other than being paid for movies or their so special faces. Please go away. Lets read a book or head to mountains. Hollywood and the NFL can kiss my butt. The way these groups have defaced our country and the people that want change in the country is unreal. Go away Hollywood. I hope it is all over. Done with it. ..Sharon…
You are right. And I live in Hollywood but not for long. They are delusional. They are also thought slaves. Don’t be too hard on them because they make their living on fiction and what audiences want. They are sponsored by the policial views they are required to support and they can’t leave cuz they have no where to go. Hollywood is a place for wayfaring people. That’s why the conditions are so bad. The glam and glitter is on the side facing the public and the scum is in the other side taking advantage of the naive and desperate. Much of the ugly would go away in Hollywood if the general money spenders wouldn’t demand absurd glam and larger than life actors, but what’s fun about that if you’re going to pay to see it? Don’t rely on their judgement, just be entertained by the show.
Plain and simple , we the people of America voted fair and square for President Trump we won , the industry wants to Resist the president FINE we will certainly Resist them we do not need them ( Meryl Streep , Rpbert Diero , Sally Field , Tom Hanks , Clooney , Pitt and all the rest ) and all thier movies are bombing and will continue , Jen Lawrence her career is over .We know who the actors that resist and will forever resist them , notice the movies that made millions opening night , all these actors were not known or very famous , more unknowns for actors in movie will turn around the industry , I love to go out to a diner and movie , NOT any more not with resist movement , right now we hate that industry and this should be a clue to why you loose and we win
As the industry tries to make abnormal behavior appear to be normal the fewer movies I watch. The more I see actors or actresses try to use their influence or threaten to leave the country to sway voters or how to vote the fewer movies I watch. If I wanted to watch porn shows I would go to an adult movie house. I also avoid using products from advertisers that promote these movies. The majority of movies are worthless crap.
You’d actually go to a filthy porn theater instead of just getting millions of hours of it FOR FREE on your computer or phone? How old ARE you, man?!?
I read this whole article!
I read this whole article.
Compared to ever-changing forms of music, art or architecture through the decades, the Hollywood feature is fossilized in amber, both in terms of the underlying business model and the structure of its content. Our attention spans are mobilized and our content consumption is atomized. The form factor of a Hollywood movie is incompatible with both.
That’s nonsense, recorded music is still the same audio waves of tuned sound, most visual arts are two-dimensional, sculptures are generally the same three dimensional forms and architecture is still generally a four-wall structure. That’s like saying books are “fossilized” because they are still printed on paper. Nothing has changed, the story structures used over the last hundred years and in films today date back to Aristotle’s times. That sounds like blow-hard intellectual gibberish by someone who doesn’t understand our industry. You either like movies or you don’t, you either like books or music or art or you don’t. Consumer behavior has changed in that we expect what we want, when we want it, and where we want it and the lines of content formats are changing, we are watching more short form content online. This does not replace the theater experience. Less people are going to theaters because there are less movies drawing them there. Yes, there are flaws in the business models on the production side, but theme parks like Disneyland have managed to raise their ticket prices many times over the past 20 years and their attendance is going up. It is purely a value proposition, film is no different than any other sector of products or services who rely on the laws of supply and demand. Hollywood is over supplied with bad product causing a weakening in the demand, if they are going to survive they need to make a product that people want.
No offense but is there a deliberate effort to verbalize replies in the most overly complicated way possible or an alternative and nonsensical argument used to justify fancy adjectives and metaphors? Once we try and decipher your post and if your reasoning is correct then the whole industry would be doomed. People actually still do watch movies and TV you know so it has absolutely nothing at all to do with attention spans. If you asked 100 people why they don’t go to the Cinema anymore I’ll bet around 70% of them would say the rip off ticket prices. Simple.
They have to go virtual 3D in Theaters. The technology is already being tested and used. They need to provide an experience that people can’t get at home including vibrating the chairs, smells, better sound and an all around “emergence experience” to keep competitive and draw in the audience. ~ Enlightened Life Entertainment
If thy’re anything like me, I think they’d say that they have an acceptable equivalent experience available from their sofa, in their pajamas, with a bowl of their favorite ice cream in their lap, with the ability to pause the experience when they need to pee.
It’s only the true zeitgeist movie that pushes me into the theater these days, when I don’t want to miss out on what everyone’s talking about. For virtually everything else, I’ll pick from the numerous excellent movies available at home, that were in the theater a few months earlier.
Yes, that is what I mean. They really need to make it something special for people to go out to see and experience it.
The future of multiplex theater could be following the ill-fated drive in theater. The cinema experience has changed dramatically since the inception of the multiplex in the 1980’s. Auditoriums have become noticeably smaller, sometimes housing less than 100 seats and smaller screens, which took away from the cinema experience. The DVD and influx of chains such as Blockbuster and smaller Mom and Pop video stores in the 1980’s hit the movie theater business hard. In the present, streaming services such as Netflix, make movie viewing more convenient. The theater as we now know it will likely be a thing of the past in the next decade.
As an experienced Theater Manager and Projectionist with over a decade of experience, I can tell you that the bulk of the profits go to the motion picture studio with typically a 55/45 percent split of the profits. The real profit for the theater itself is in the sale of concessions. While I agree that both ticket and concessions are both high, there are things you can do to save money at the theater. Look for bargain days, typically on a Tuesday for cheaper admission prices. Ticket are usually lower for the first show or matinees. Ask about discounts for students, senior citizens or military. Join the club membership for larger chains and take advantage of coupons issued at the box office, such as at Regal Theaters for reduced concession items like popcorn. Parents look for kid packs, usually a popcorn, small drink and candy at reduced prices.
Although, I no longer work there, I still love going to the movies. I consider it a day out and I’m prepared to spend a few bucks. I hope this helps!
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I can’t see how you say that the bulk of the profits go to the picture studio and then say that the split is 55/45. So the studio gets 5% more of the takings? How is that ‘the bulk’? When you have an industry that makes over a 1000% markup on food it shows where the real problem is.
An overly long report that once again emphasizes how far out of touch Hollywood is with reality. The fact of the matter, THAT I’VE READ COUNTLESS TIMES, is that no wants wants to pay upwards of £50 ($80) to take themselves and their family to to the Cinema to watch a movie. It’s as simple as that!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Once these greedy b******s at Hollywood accept this and reduce their profit margins (probably meaning giving up one of their holiday homes or a couple of sports cars) then perhaps we can make the Cinema experience better again? As for now, long the Internet and the myriad of Torrent sites that take more money out of the pockets of the real robbers.
There is something missing from the thought process! The movie theater experience is no longer something people look forward to. Prices have climbed to a point that other entertainment venues are an option. Both ticket price and refreshments are “ridiculous” according to recent survey of patrons. I am currently consulting to a company working for a large theatre group. They are developing a theater environment that will be a complete entertainment complex not just a movie theater. One other thing that keeps people out to theaters is being disconnected from their smartphones for 2 hours! If they can’t text they would rather be someplace else!
Totally agree! And your point about going cold turkey on your mobile diet hit me. Never thought about it. Excellent!
“There are two major problems gripping the industry. Younger audiences are becoming more interested in streamable content that is accessible on their iPhones or tablets.” Well, Hollywood, there’s your problem. Let other industries form to chase the dollar that younger audience never pays to stream content. You see, they want it free. Instead, refocus movies on Baby Boomers and Generation X, and simply improve story quality. Doing those two things is all it takes. And there, your problem’s solved for you.
Whence this inane focus on “younger audiences”? Who GIVES a f what younger audiences want or are doing? Maintain loyalty with the audience that BUILT Hollywood: Boomers and Generation X!
It’s pretty damn simple Hollywood – Tell stories and entertain us, stop trying to push agendas down everyone’s throat while regurgitating crap from the past. Make quality entertainment and I will GLADLY spend the money on a regular basis to go see it.
I find it a little sad that theater chains would spend “millions” to research how timing and prices of home release would affect theater ticket sales, but not one of those chains will invest in cell signal blockers or an usher who actively quiets (and if necessary ejects) disruptive movie goers. I stopped going to movie theaters almost entirely well over a decade ago (closer to two) because of the near certainty that I won’t get to watch and enjoy the movie due to a**hole moviegoers. The theater chains are and have been well aware of this problem, but they’ll try to place the blame anywhere else rather than do something about an experience over which they have complete control.
I would be much more inclined to spend money at a theater if I knew I’d actually get to watch the film. The full big screen experience is different from anything I can get at home, but at least at home I know I’ll actually get to see the movie. In the theater, I’m being charged $13 to $15 per ticket for the “privilege” of listening to strangers’ inane commentary, questions and cell phone conversations, and to be distracted by the light from various devices (often brighter than the movie screen). Paying an arm and a leg to *not* get to see a movie is why I don’t go see movies in theaters; it has absolutely nothing to do with when the movie will be released for home viewing.
OMG YOU GUYS! I swear, I’m surrounded by people who can’t think for themselves & just parrot each other all day long again… And that is why Hollywood is in trouble! Not because of the technicalities of whether people watch a movies on a DVD players or iPhones or out of a freeking toaster. The problem is not, and never will be, that there is too much content. The problem is that there is LESS good content than ever!
But, you know what, as this will take only a few minutes to write, here’s a real analysis. It’s the least I can do for the industry that I love. You’re welcome :)
The reason the business is in the condition it’s in is because:
1. The entertainment business has forgotten that it’s the ***entertainment*** business.
2. Hollywood’s foundation–that of good writing–is now composed of some of the worst writers ever.
3. Hollywood’s executive side is also composed of some of the worst/most-illogical business minds ever. (FYI: Bad script don’t buy themselves.)
By the way, I work at a studio. And I’m 28. And I probably went to the theater on my own twice last year. And once this year, which was a mistake. With the exception of several premiers I went to, during which I wanted to cry after 20 minutes because they were such a drag!
But I remember loving nothing more than going to the movies. And I’d literally go every weekend with friends / family — even though the closet theater was a a little over an hour away from the boarding school I went too & almost three hours away from the vacation house my family would spent most of our summers at! Movies just used to be so good & so worth seeing on the big screen. Or any screen for that matter. As what specific screen you watch things on is apparently just the most profound issue of our lifetimes to some people…
(Sorry, I had to lol!)
But anyways, up until around ’06/’07(??), I don’t ever remember leaving a theater without a big smile on my face. Furthermore, movies that used to be churned out were the kind everybody would watch over & over again. Movies like Beetlejuice, Legally Blonde, Jerry McGuire, Pretty Woman, Gladiator, Heavy Weights, The Lizzie McGuire Movie, Some Like it Hot, Gone With the Wind, Moulin Rouge, The God Father, The Bachelor & The Bobby Soxer etc… They were all just so fun & entertaining! :) (Even all those cheap TV movies that came one the Disney Channel like Zenon & Halloweentown were just zillion times better than most of the major features people spend a quarter of a billion+ nowadays making!)
Which brings me to my point. The majority of todays movies (as well as TV shows) are the worst!
Obviously some of the remakes are really great (e.g. Beauty & The Beast) & are raking in money for a reason. But remakes are a credit to the writers of the past and, furthermore, making remakes is unsustainable as eventually you will just run out of ones to make. But aside from remakes and several great original films (Neighbors 2 for example! :D), everything made is either ‘art for the sake of art’ crud (e.g. La La Land), education/politics preaching buzzkills (e.g. Tomorrowland), or a movie that is so bad that a part of you wonders if it was written/greenlit as part of a conspiracy to destroy a studio (e.g. the recent Ghostbusters, Aloha, the upcoming Oceans movie), or else just another version of Gone Girl (or in regards to TV, another version of CSI of which there have been 10+ at this point!).
(By the way. Before somebody says it. Whatever your political view is, I love you for having it and God bless you. In the case of Tomorrowland for example, I totally agree with the message of that film. And I think that taking care of your environment is so important–something which I was taught by my parents and school. But FYI: I think that not being a total buzzkill is important as well. And I think that, if you have chosen to work in the entertainment business, making actual entertainment to the best of your abilities is important and a matter of ethics as well. It may be an unwritten contract, but when people go to the theater, they’re giving you money for a little fun & escape from life. So honor that contract. Or else, if you think entertainment, which bring happiness to so many people, is frivolous & below your ‘intellectual state of mind’, go work in a different industry. Also, in regards to writers, if you’re a good person, then why are you so worried about preaching goodness to the world. Shouldn’t that goodness, as it’s true and actually part of you, just inherently reflect in everything little thing you do? Furthermore, before someone defends “La La Land” as a movie that made money. Really? Does tricking people into seeing a high school film thesis (which a team of two girl in my class did way better) with a massive publicity blitz count?? I mean, when I saw that trailer I thought it was the most boring thing on earth. But the movie was just getting all these awards & nonstop raves by magazines such as Variety, so I decided to give it a chance. And it was the wooooorst! And everybody I ever talked to about it said the same!! Glad you made back the return you wanted Lionsgate, but you’ve made a lot of people a lot more cynical about critical reviews so real good job you twits behind that scheme….)
That said, in regards to all those people always having those fake-intellectual discussions about tentpoles versus real art…
Weren’t all those fantastic movies I mentioned above (regardless of their genres/whatever) tentpoles? Didn’t they rake in tons for studios in theaters? And didn’t they make tons in DVD/VHS sales & TV reruns? I mean, when did the concepts of blockbusters & good writing become mutually exclusive? Because, in my mind, and just based of basic logic, a genuinely great story is what actually guarantees a great blockbuster. (For example, James Bond would have never become the iconic brand it became if it wasn’t a product of such great writing. Those practically plotless new Bond films obviously only still make money because of the incredibleness of those old ones which people, including me, just don’t want to let go of.) Furthermore, when did it become that movies had to bore you to death & suck as hard as possible for them to be upheld as ‘art’? And when is it that people became so obsessed with ‘art for the sake of art’? Is that when Hollywood become hijacked by a bunch of untalented/not-very-clever dweebs who were only ever able to get their foots into Hollywood by flashing their Ivy degrees (which is really just product of doing your homework diligently all your life!) & mesmerizing people enamored with Ivy-hype with some fancy sounding ‘intellectual terminology’ despite, realistically not having an ability to do literally nothing other than just regurgitate random things they memorized for their midterm exams???
(Btw: I went to Harvard Law. And believe me, while I play it up all the time in real life, it’s not very hard to get into. I think a lot of people are just too intimidated to apply. And I’m not saying that to be humble. I mean, one of my classmates there literally didn’t even know what Beijing was lol! I thought he was joking initially, because how does someone not know that in this day & age about Beijing? That’s like not knowing New York or London… But clearly, it is possible… He was a sweet little soul though, so I don’t mean to badger his character!)
But anyways… I’m sorry to be so blunt and sound so rude… But people there’s just no way to sugarcoat what’s going on at this point!
That said, obviously Hollywood’s writers are sweet & hardworking people. And writing is, while it looks easy, just a very hard job. And one that only a rare few on this planet can do well commercially. I mean, it’s just one of those jobs that requires more than just hard work & diligence. It requires the kind of talent and cleverness and personality that you’ve just got to be born with! It’s like a whole package of things…. Therefore, if you’re one of the untalented writers reading this, don’t take it personally!
Also, in regards to most writers currently working in Hollywood, they’ve got obviously got some talent. It just lies in a different industry. In my opinion, from the way so many of them are so passionate about regurgitating stereotypical ‘intellectual people’ talking points & forcefully enlightening everybody with their knowledge (even if their knowledge only consists of things everybody already learned in high school!), they would make for great high school teachers :) (An important as heck job btw! I don’t mean that sarcastically!!) Same goes for most of the current execs running the show. Most of them just are most suited to be teachers (elementary though in their case, as management is key there!) or else… Accountants! :)
But here’s the thing though…While bad writers are part of the problem, are they the root of it? I mean, you can’t blame someone for giving their dream a shot, right?! In fact, people should always be encouraged to follow their dreams, as you will never know what you’re capable of unless you try. And especially in the case of Hollywood, as we need new literary talent desperately, we won’t be able to discover new talent unless people actually interested in giving screenwriting a shot send us their specs… But why is though that so many bad writers are actually working professionally? And why is it that, coming from someone working in development, it’s always the same crappy writers whose material is just non-stop circulated??
Which brings me to my next point. The root of the problem really is the majority of execs working at studios out here. Because how hard is it do do a job where all you’ve gotta do is pick a good script out of the pile? I mean, did someone force any of these people to hire the worst writers out there & buy/greenlight scripts like Aloha and Imaginary Mary (upcoming flop, mark my words!)? And did someone force them to not go out there & start scouting their hearts out for the new literary talent that our iconic industry will eventually be ruined without? I mean, if agents no longer do their jobs and just send the same horrible scripts by the same clients to us, that doesn’t mean we can’t scout on our own… Because if there were so many talented writers working in the past, at least the same amount (if not more due to population growth) exist today. We just need to find them. Aka: In other words, we just need to all do our jobs in the manner of those great business people (e.g Aaron Spelling) who came before us.
That said… In regards to actually being able to do your job…. Obviously though, once again, just like most writers, all the execs I know are such sweet & hardworking people. And so I feel bad for writing this. But they are just not the kind of guys Aaron Spelling & those those original Warner Brothers were. I mean, I wouldn’t go work as a brain surgeon as I know I don’t have the necessary disposition to deal with doing a job where I’ve gotta just follow instructions to a ‘T’ like that. And so, in the same way… All these execs working (some mentioned in this article) just shouldn’t, once again, be working in business where don’t have the necessary competency (or disposition!) to make decisions that require thinking for yourself as opposed to just copying one another & falling in line. Hence, the 10+ versions of CSI & multiple Gone Girls…
But anyways, that’s all I wanted to say.
That said, maybe there actually is a conspiracy going on or something and it’s like the Manchurian candidate — except this time it’s the studios that have plants to destroy our economy through our industries. Because, I mean, there is dumb & not knowing what your are doing… But this level of stupidity in the decisions being made, and the lack of basic common sense being used, and these silly talking points that are always just being repeated by various people (Stacey Snider was saying stuff similar the other day), is just a whole other level… Lol! :)
Wow. Stumbled across this article today, and then this insanely long comment. Once I got to “And I’m 28”, though, I stopped reading because I knew the opinion of this pseudo-14-year-old didn’t actually matter.
Wow. Were u drunk when u wrote that? I’ve never seen anyone write so much after an article. About stuff not even related to the topic. Get a life. Harvard grads must be cringing.
All I got from that horrible and manically written, pedantic tirade, is that you are the problem. You’re a 28 year old preaching as though you know something, yet you sound exactly like all the other annoying, prissy studio execs that speak loudly without anything to say, and offer pointless notes on scripts, just to remind your bosses that you exist and matter. And perhaps your sophomoric personality is a desperate attempt to convince yourself that you exist and matter, and so you are slowly losing your grounding in reality and becoming unhinged as every day proves to you a little more that your existence is meaningless and nobody cares what you have to say, until finally, you snap and vomit your inner most anxieties onto a comment section. Here is a fact: 28 year old studio executives perform the least important job in Hollywood. You do absolutely nothing of value and possibly just make things worse. After reading your post, I can tell you with total certainty that you are not good at your job and nobody likes you, but if you keep at it for a few more years and try not to act like such a know it all, you might get to take the training wheels off and start performing your job at a high enough level that maybe, juuuust maybe, you will contribute in some small way to the good work of other people that are far more intelligent and creative than you are.
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Project much? You’re doing it here. Her comment, as an insider, made lot of sense. Yours just goes and attacks her post.
How about this, sir: ***you**** do nothing of value, at least here in this comment section. You write badly, too.
Troll.
Hollywood you lizards! If you make quality movies say like LOGAN people will come out in droves to see it. Movie exhibitors also have to stop relying on concessions to pay the bills. No one wants to pay your 1000 percent inflated prices! If you build it (properly without restraint) we will come.
The decline in attendance has nothing to do with any kind of perceived decline in quality of films. It has everything to do with the fact that people under 30 prefer to stream a movie from their mobile device than to see the movie in a theater. The WAY the consumer is choosing to consume their media is changing and it will keep on changing regardless of whatever the “quality” of movies today might be. People are not losing their interest in movies. They just don’t want to watch them in a movie theater.
Well, your products suck now. You became hyperniched and cared way too much about the 15-29 morons who may buy a couple things, but nothing of value. You partnered with less than honorable financiers for easy money, and lost a generation of moviegoers. Now you’re still going the wrong way with foreign financiers. Just make your mind control party a private affair, and pass out Egyptian idols to each other off camera. Oh, and fuck off.
Per capita movie ticket sales are about what they were in 1967. And it looks set to go up this year, And the decline has happened in the context of a bad economy.
Usually the “The End Is Near” talk comes around when Hollywood is out of touch with its audiences. For all the talk about straight-to-streaming movies, there have been only a handful that anyone has actually cared about. I would also say, in reality, there are relatively few superhero films when considering the amount that the market could probably bear. There were like, five, last year. Considering its popularity, that’s really few.
I love how the “implosion” of Hollywood is being blamed on high ticket prices and streaming services like Netflix and Amazon. The real reason this is happing is that Hollywood has been taken over by corporate hacks and Wall Street suck-ups, creative decisions are being made by lawyers and business school graduates. The original Hollywood studio system was built by creative people who had balls and followed their gut instincts. Film sets and board rooms are filled with executives who are too afraid to do anything innovative, they would rather drink from the tiny pool of “talent” and continue to make the same movies over and over again. They all look and sound exactly the same, the stories are predictable and boring. Film is an art form and it can’t be quantified with data and statistics, innovation will always rise to the top.
Yes, film is an art form, but I don’t necessarily think that the original Hollywood studio system was built by “creative people”. I mean, by the late 1910s the studios grew so powerful United Artists was formed so that artists could regain independence from the top executives. To be more precise, I think it was in the 60s and, in particular, the 70s where the studios were really letting artists be creative and take risks.
There is no way I can like M33’s comment enough. I can add nothing to this. He or she nailed it ALL, and I work here.
I love the idea of ‘Screening Room’, the latest disruptive business idea launched by Sean Parker. I would subscribe to the service right away. The theater experience is ridiculously romanticized by the opponents of ‘Screening Room’, given that most cinemas nowadays have about as much charm as a local tax offices. I would be happy to be relieved from lining up, getting shitty food for a shit load of money and being obstructed in enjoying the pleasures of the movie by youths who have missed their Ritalin ration, play around dopamine addicted with their cellphones and unwilling or just unable to hold their peace.
Also business-wise I think it’s a great idea because it enables tens, maybe hundreds of millions of people deprived of a cinema within their reach to participate in the movie experience from day one on. In Germany, in the average everyone is 17 kilometers away from a cinema. And that means maybe hundred kilometers away from a cinema that actually shows any premiering movies at all. Because most of the provincial cinemas only show movies that have already premiered elsewhere. Even in all of the United States there are mostly not more than 3.500 out of 40.000 theaters premiering a movie – and that would be a big release! ‘Screening Room’ or something like it would be a truly fantastic move to democratize the movie experience because theaters are just too lazy to deliver it.
It is your choice. I find a reason to care for cinema because it has given me a very personal experience since I was a kid. I don’t like to sound overly sentimental but it has to me a similar effect I have when I see a theater play. Probably there is people who are taking it personl but you can’t make it look like other people who don’t share your views are in la la land. Peace
I don’t think one can replace the experience of going out to the movies with paying for a new film on TV $30 (especially vs tons of new inexpensive content on Netflix and VOD). This model will fail. The experience of going to the movies is here to stay. Also, look at the inflation-adjusted grosses of the all-time box-office champs on boxofficemojo.com. A great portion were made in the last decade. How can one say audiences are shrinking?
Because the outsized BO performance of a handful of recent films (Force Awakens, Jurassic World) , doesn’t do anything to indicate whether or not people pay to see the other films that are released.
in 2015 and 2016 only 29 films made more than $100 million.
From 2009 to 2014, that number was consistently above 30.
So while the pie may be getting bigger each year, less and less movies are dividing it up.
Research is great, but is anybody going to test market this new model? People will surprise you.
Hollywood could also look to cut back on budgets a bit. Look at the third act of “World War Z.” And a superhero movie like “Deadpool.” The whole movie doesn’t have to spectacle.
They are willing to do anything except produce a variety of good films that appeal to all audiences. So basically if they can’t make their revenue off a single huge garbage film they don’t bother. They don’t want to do the work. They don’t want to make good pictures. They don’t want to hire talented directors and writers. They don’t want to spend any money putting different kinds of films in theatres. That’s what happens when you put mega corps in charge of things they know nothing about.
It’s the sign of the times. Giant Company doesn’t care about anything but quick profit.
More and more we are living in Idiocracy. Any day now the biggest picture will be a film about bare butts farting.
A few notes, taken from direct talk to and overheard from movie theater patrons over the past 3 weeks or so:
Movies costing an obscene amount of money. In a business where success is not a guarantee. It’s Entertainment and Art, not Food or Water. If your movie has to gross 500 million just to break even, you’re in trouble before it’s seen a single screen.
Most screenings in the chain theaters today look like crap.Blurry, contrasty,
2k doesn’t cut it, when spread to a screen larger then 20 feet or so. And there is zero incentive for the theaters to spend on better equipment.
Even IMAX isn’t keeping up with proper projection and technology. It’s been years since they announced 4k, Laser Projection 12.1 sound,etc. And yet…largely in places like L.A. and N.Y. where one expects this like one expects the water to be on.
All of this does not help in encouraging people to go out to a venue, where tickets are 10 dollars, a bag of popcorn starts around 6 or 7, and it just goes up from there. People need a reason to step out of their homes. Blindly putting out rehashes of the same thing, without even asking the audience if they’d like to see it, doesn’t help either.
The audience has to WANT to go. WANT to see. Product…o’kay, it’s a mater of taste. But there’s little variety to be seen on a multiplex, where,say, Beauty and the Beast will take up nearly half the houses. That doesn’t leave a lot of room for anyone else.
On Non Netflix streaming, one has a large selection of old and new movies to watch. At home. With often better sound and picture quality.
Just reporting in from the trenches at the front lines.
I personally think the film industry needs a service akin to Steam for PC video games, where there would be a centralized storefront for multiple studios all the way from indie on up to the big name blockbusters, the ability to purchase and download digital copies of merchandise, an extra streaming service on the side with a modest fee, an early access program for movies that have yet to be formally release for home media and a digital representation of the user with a customizable profile and character, with sales of digital goods for said avatars and profiles driving the continued cost of server upkeep and client development.
Since 1968; the USA motion picture industry has been telling the 13-to-16 years old that they are old enough to pay adult prices, yet they are not old enough to see an R rated film without a parent and/or guardian.
How about changing it to 17 and above pay adult prices, while the 16 and under pay children’s prices. Most theaters make the bulk of their profit from the snack bar.
The cinema is one of the few businesses in the USA that gets away with being double standard mercenary hypocrites.
Who will speak up for the 13-to-16 years old and their parent and/or guardians?
VUDU has something very much like that. Multiple studios, a wide variety of movies to purchase or rent. Download capability. 4k and Dolby Atmos.
What is this the 10th year in a row I’ve read an article telling me of the destruction of the movie industry? Or is the 15th? Or 60th? And how come a few months ago I was reading about the end of Cable TV and this cites it’s success as one of the reasons the movie industry is in trouble.
Sounds like a bunch of noise to have something to talk about and get eyeballs.
Is releasing a movie 30 or 45 days after release in theaters (for 30-50 dollars!) really that big of a difference than the current 90 day model? Any movie I’m willing to wait 45 days for I’m willing to wait 90 days for. And unless I got a whole family I’m not paying 30 dollars to rent a movie and stay at home.
Do we really think kids are watching YouTube videos just out of convenience or do they actually prefer that endless free content over a two hour movie?
Best solution: lower theater prices on admissions and concessions. This isn’t about tablets or phones or binging. It’s about GOUGING.
Listen to this person
I know right? How dare you charge me ten dollars to see a movie that cost you 200 million dollars to make! What a rip off!
As I sit here pondering your comment, try as I might I can’t remember the last time I saw a film I thought was worth a 200 million dollar price tag. There has to come a day when we stop this endless CGI madness and actually make pictures about people again.
I like action films and sci fi and comic book as much as anyone, but come on. In a world where people don’t have enough to eat we blow 200 million dollars on a film and expect to make it back? You can’t get much more craven than that without being a basketball star.
Money has corrupted every asdpect of our lives. Film is no longer about art it’s about earnings. So much is sacrificed in quality and appeal. We are watching the dumbing down of culture in this country. Just look at how money has corrupted and dumbed down our government. Quite sad and depressing.
Hollywood is still heavily segregated and whitewashed. As an Asian, I see virtually no characters who look like me on the big screen. I understand that Hollywood doesn’t care about my demographic, but don’t come crying to me about low ticket sales if I stay home instead.
The keystone of Hollywood is exclusivity, p aranoia and greed. The cure is the “devolution ” and not evolution of the major film studios. When filmed entertainment is epitomized by something other than “numbers” then the motio picture will regain its value.
My wife and I rarely go to the movies anymore. Only when there’s a movie that really needs to be seen on the big screen, like the latest Star Wars movie, Lord of the Rings, etc. We go maybe once a year and some years not at all. We love movies, but usually aren’t in any hurry to see them until they hit the pay-cable channels.
The system has to crash so young artists can have a voice: let it happen.
Young artists already have a voice. There are plenty of arthouse/independent films being made already.
Please. Young artists are living in poverty and constantly being scammed. Enough lies.
It’s deceptive to cite sean baker as a young filmmaker. Tangerine was his fourth feature.
Yes, but this is the nature of the business. We can’t stop it from evolving. I doubt people will stop going to the theatres, just like people won’t stop going to concerts – there’s just something about sitting down with some popcorn and watching a big screen.
When my daughters were young, if the film was PG, I’d bring them with me. No need for a babysitter.
Sure, Netflix and Amazon have entered the scene, but we are social creatures needing social interaction. The whole point of theatre is to get out of the house and escape and enjoy some good storytelling. Nobody’s going to give that up any time soon.
Both David and Lisa below make some great points. Basically the two of you represent the full issue. Half see it the way David does and the other the way Lisa sees it. As for me, I only visit the theater around Oscar season to catch up and when there’s a big event, Like Avengers or Batman vs Superman. I also visit when there’s a huge word of mouth about a film. But the ladder, I tend to wait until it’s available for streaming to catch up. So I’m not sure where I fall in regarding what David & Lisa are saying. Great article by the way.
People are not going to stop going to the movie theater en masse. The problem is that not enough people go to the movie theaters in order to sustain the current Hollywood studio system as we know it.
I’m sorry but, film is just not where it’s at anymore. This focus on global receipts takes any daring or originality out of filmmaking, The Oscars are not even what they used to be. The handful of films thrown up at the end of the year are not nearly as good as years past, and not even close to what’s happening on tv/streaming. The Crown, Big Little Lies, Handmaid’s Tale-these and more would have been films even as recently as a decade ago, and eligible for nominations, but not now. There is a palpable excitement for Game of Thrones, Fargo,Twin Peaks, Stranger things even smaller titles like Leftovers and the like. Can’t say the same about film, unless you are a comic book junkie or 10 year old.
Let’s not even talk about the actual experience of going to the theater, which has become just dreadful. I still trudge out there for the interesting films, but they are becoming less and less, even here in NYC, where the choices are better than mainstream America.
The business needs to recognize these changes and do something drastic.
Adapt or die, it’s that simple.
In the old days, a continuing series of episodes was called a soap opera. The above you mentioned are TV shows, not film. To me, there’s TV and there’s film – two distinctive entities.
it’s not the “old days” and if you can’t recognize the quality difference between the soap opera of old and today’s work, then I can’t help you.
I think David’s point is that almost all of the creative risks are being taken on the TV medium, while film for the most part has abandoned that and makes films mostly based on proven and recognizable franchises.
Both are motion pictures if you want to go in semantics.